worried, particularly with the new secretary of state, and possibly a new secretary of defense, the obama administration wants a diplomatic success, quote/unquote, which you can achieve by giving into your adversary's position. >> they say the democratic mat tick could be a success. you mentioned john kerry embarking on this trip. what do you think he'll propose on the trip in dealing with the nuclear issue? >> i'm worried what will happen is by legit myselfing the iranian program you increase the risk iran will get to nuclear weapons very quickly. the example of north korea, we've seen their third nuclear test within the past days. that once you get to a certain point, people begin to accept that you are a nuclear power. that's what the north north kors have counted on in the face of stiffer sanctions imposed. the lesson for iran is keep plugging ahead and they'll overcome the west's opposition. once that happens, everything in the middle east changes. >> you've raise add great point, the sanctions against north korea have been much stronger than tehran. they've had three tests already.